How long before a Sarr flower opens?

How long before a Sarr flower opens?#434404

By Gary -  Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:57 pm
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- Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:57 pm #434404

One of my new Sarrs (unknown sp.) put up a flower stalk this spring. It's looked like this for about 2 weeks, and I'm wondering if this bud is a dud. This is my first experience with Sarr flowers , so I don't know how long it takes for the flower to open. Any insights? Thanks!

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Re: How long before a Sarr flower opens?#434407

By ChefDean -  Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:09 am
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- Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:09 am #434407

Lots of factors will influence it. Age of the plant, size of the stalk, photoperiod, temperature, etc. It'll open when it's ready.
I've had flowers go from the nub making an appearance to bloom in a week, and others take a couple months. Patience.

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Re: How long before a Sarr flower opens?#434408

By Gary -  Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:18 am
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- Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:18 am #434408

Interesting. This particular Sarr has also sprouted some immature pitchers and I'm hoping that the flower will help with identifying it.

Re: How long before a Sarr flower opens?#434414

By ChefDean -  Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:40 am
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- Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:40 am #434414

Probably not, unless it's a Tarnok. The flower will have the same shape as the next one. Color may be an indicator, but if it's a cross then it'll show the dominant parents coloration. Some smell different, but, again, if it's a cross then the dominant one may win out in a smell contest. Especially if it's flava.
The best indicator of species is usually pitcher shape, many times hood shape. Even then it's a guessing game as there's no way to be sure it's "A", unless you know what it is, you may have to be happy with a No ID.

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Re: How long before a Sarr flower opens?#434429

By Intheswamp -  Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:48 pm
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- Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:48 pm #434429

I had a single flower to bloom on one of my mystery pitchers from California Carnivores. I agree that going by smell can be difficult. Going by the aroma, I googled and researched everywhere trying to find a variety or cultivar that was named S. gallus gallus domesticus, but never could find one.

Re: How long before a Sarr flower opens?#434431

By Panman -  Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:57 pm
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- Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:57 pm #434431

I have a flower that never opened completely. It happened. To me all of the yellow sarr flowers look alike. The alata flowers, however, have a lovely smell. Flava, on the other hand, smell like cat pee.

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Re: How long before a Sarr flower opens?#434440

By Gary -  Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:29 pm
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- Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:29 pm #434440

This Sarr is one of two that I got from CalCarn last year at the rhizome sale. No pedigree. A couple of the immature pitchers have opened, and the lids look a bit like a s. minor. But again, these are immature pitchers and may not indicate the species.

Re: How long before a Sarr flower opens?#434452

By Barlapipas 6 -  Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:16 pm
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- Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:16 pm #434452

I had 2 kinds of S. purpurea. The old one died from dehydration and the other one is the current one. I watched both of them produce their first flower. The older one took a month or a bit more but the flower was smaller and shorter. The current one took 1 and half months but the flower was bigger. So be patient.

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