Jade wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:49 pm
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The ICPS was a good site to look at for that info right? I thought it was the one recommended, but I think I closed that tab and I forget what was mentioned and my eyeballs are somehow not seeing that suggestion even rereading my threads so I just wanted to make sure. It came up when looking for what to grow pings in.
Oh yeah do y’all get the stuff from like Lowe’s or something like that and mix from there or are those stores not good?
Yes, ICPS has some good information. The better plant vendors usually have good information online, too.
You actually need to go to the big box stores to make sure what they have in stock. Remember, never buy Miracle-Gro ingredients for carnivorous plants...it's okay for other plants but *not* for carnivorous ones.
The least expensive way of buying is naturally in large volume, meaning in "bales" of peat moss, or large bags of perlite. Home Depot has free shipping on a 2 cubic foot bag of Vigoro perlite, though I don't think I've see that at the actual store (I just received a bag I ordered). Bales of peat moss usually come in from 2 to 4 cubic foot bales. Peat quality varies between brands and even between different batches of the same brand.
I've been very pleased with "Majestic Earth" peat moss that I purchased at a brick and mortar Lowe's store. Other's have been pleased with "Premier"...this brand is found at lots of places...Home Depot, Tractor Supply, etc.,.
Sungro's "Black Gold" peat moss seems to be the best that can be found, at times, at different brick and mortar stores. I just found some at a Tractor Supply and bought two 2.2 cubic foot bales...I had checked a different Tractor Supply in another town that did not have the Sungro, but rather Premier (though online it showed Sungro!
....that's why you need to go by the stores and look). "Sunshine" is another Sungro peat moss that is good. There's other good brands, besides these, but these come to mind the quickest.
One brand of peat to NEVER BUY is "Greensmix" which Tractor Supply sold at one time. It is JUNK. There's probably other bad brands, too, but I'm really unaware of a particular one other than the Greensmix.
A consideration you need to look at is whether you have room to store the large volumes of ingredients. The 2 cu ft bag of perlite is about the size of a medium sized bag of dog food. A 2.2 cubic foot bale of peat moss is about the size of a large bag of dog food. And, a 4 cubic foot bale of peat moss is basically two large bags of dog food in size.
As for dried sphagnum moss, Lowes has good prices on Better-Gro "Sphagnum Moss - Long Fibered" and on "Orchid Moss" of the same brand...either of these work good. They come in smaller amounts, maybe 3/4 shoebox size mini-bales. There's another brand called "Mosser Lee" that you'll see on the shelf, it has several different types of moss under its brand...I wouldn't mess with that brand.
And, if you want smaller than bale or large bag quantities you could go with "Hoffman" peat moss if you find it, it comes in small "Large potatoe-chip" sized bags. There is mixed reviews/feelings about the Hoffman peat, so "buyer beware" Also, I've often seen small (potato chip size) bags of Vigoro perlite on the shelves. The basic mix is a one-to-one ratio of peat and perlite, but it doesn't hurt to have more of one than the other on hand...sometimes you might want more peat or more perlite in a mix anyhow.
(Remember, though, stay away from Miracle-Gro!!!).
There *are* vendors who sell premixed "carnivorous plant soil". One to definitely stay away from is one sold on Amazon called "Perfect Plants". Lots of complaints in the forum about that one. The small bags on Amazon are EXPEN$IVE. If you only need a small amount of mix you might post a query here in the forum about your needs...there are *good* folks here that sell their own mix (the mix that they use) and at a fair price.
Anyhow, maybe some of that will help. Again...don't sweat bullets over it. Stay away from Miracle-Gro, Greensmix, Perfect Plants, and the Mosser Lee stuff and you should be okay.