Ok. someone was asking about the cuttings. so here are some updated photo's. i took them inside this week.
N. ventricosa "red" X hamata, long vine and 2 new growth points.
sanguinea "red" × ventricosa "red" "Secret Victory" one vine and one new growth point coming out.
at this point i was getting bug juice all over my counter. notice the photo above so rest of photo's will be in the treys.
all rooted cuttings.
N. (ventricosa × sibuyanensis) × (talangensis × aristolochioides) "Jolly Twist"
N. Maxima 'Wavy Leaf' BE-3543
N. Boschiana "BE 3643" female
so yeah they grew a lot over the summer and gotten scraggly. If you don't like that look you can remove the main vines and root them and let the new growth points grow.
After it gets to cold to ship i think i will trim them up so in spring they will look better and ship in small boxes