Could I make my own D. Filiformis 'Dreamsicle' plants?

Could I make my own D. Filiformis 'Dreamsicle' plants?#443158

By Intheswamp -  Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:09 pm
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- Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:09 pm #443158

If I had an anthocyanin-free tracyi and a florida red and cross pollinated them, would I end up with D. 'Dreamsicle' cultivars from the seed?

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Re: Could I make my own D. Filiformis 'Dreamsicle' plants?#443161

By Panman -  Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:47 pm
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- Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:47 pm #443161

No, you would just end up with a Dreamsicle sibling. The genes would not necessarily match up. You could wind up with something from the tracyii to the Florida Red and everything in between.

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Re: Could I make my own D. Filiformis 'Dreamsicle' plants?#443171

By Intheswamp -  Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:14 pm
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- Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:14 pm #443171

I see my error with the seeds.

So, the ‘Dreamsicle’ cultivar mother plant is a single, specific plant picked out of a litter of Florida Red x Tracyi crosses and named ‘Dreamsicle’. Existing, true ‘Dreamsicles’ come from cloning the mother plant *and* from other clones? Do you know who bred the original mother plant?

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Re: Could I make my own D. Filiformis 'Dreamsicle' plants?#443176

By Panman -  Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:04 pm
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- Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:04 pm #443176

Exactly. It was registered by a Brian Barnes of Florida, but that is all I can find about him.

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Re: Could I make my own D. Filiformis 'Dreamsicle' plants?#443178

By Intheswamp -  Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:53 pm
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- Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:53 pm #443178

Cool. So, to create a cultivar you grow a plant by hook or crook from any seed, name it “name”, create clones from it, and if enough people find it desirable and is sought after then “some authority” declares it a cultivar and changes its name to ‘name’?

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Re: Could I make my own D. Filiformis 'Dreamsicle' plants?#443179

By Panman -  Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:10 pm
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- Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:10 pm #443179

If you create a unique plant, you can register it as a cultivar with ICPS.

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Re: Could I make my own D. Filiformis 'Dreamsicle' plants?#443180

By Intheswamp -  Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:16 pm
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- Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:16 pm #443180

Thanks Panman. Just trying to figure that out. For now I’m just trying to keep things alive…not much danger of me starting a breeding program.

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Re: Could I make my own D. Filiformis 'Dreamsicle' plants?#443185

By Shadowtski -  Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:22 pm
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- Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:22 pm #443185

Intheswamp wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:16 pm Thanks Panman. Just trying to figure that out. For now I’m just trying to keep things alive…not much danger of me starting a breeding program.

Sometimes a new cultivar happens when you see one oddball plant in a pot of normals.
You separate, it clone it, and take credit for it.

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Re: Could I make my own D. Filiformis 'Dreamsicle' plants?#443187

By Intheswamp -  Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:36 am
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- Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:36 am #443187

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