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Should I wait till spring?

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:05 pm
by Barlapipas 6
I want to purchase a S.flava from a nursery called Valentine. But almost every time when I purchased from them they give a completely different Sarracenia. I just want a tall sarracenia so it doesn’t matter if it is a flava or something else as long as it is a tall one. Also every sarracenia I got was super light starved deep green and small. Also they are in a tiny pot so I have to transplant it. Also if I buy it it will come in propably 2 weeks. The good thing is that they recover fast. But the problem is that this time I am thinking of buying it now. Should I buy it now and skip dormancy, or put it outside so it will go dormant, or should I wait and buy it in spring?

Re: Should I wait till spring?

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:45 pm
by Intheswamp
Uh, if I was to order something from a company and they shipped something different from what I ordered...and this happened each time I ordered, I would not be buying/ordering from them anymore. It sounds like you're just in for more dissatisfaction. :?:

As for the pot, do they tell you that the plant will come in a 2" pot?

Re: Should I wait till spring?

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:19 pm
by Sundews69
Yeah, try to find somewhere else to order from. If you live in a foreign country (I think it was you who said they live in Greece?) and it's the only place to order from, try contacting them and ask for the correct plant. If they are really small, skipping one year of dormancy is probably ok, but it definitely isn't to late to have them enter dormancy. I'm really struggling to get my plant to go dormant this year ( they're very stubborn for some reason), but I'm still trying because it's not too late.

Re: Should I wait till spring?

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:56 pm
by ChefDean
If the only reliability they have is not sending what was ordered, and very poor quality product to boot, I would not give them any more of my money. Find a new source for live plants, and/or find a source for seeds and grow your own.

Re: Should I wait till spring?

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 12:36 am
by Barlapipas 6
Yes I a m the Greek guy. Unfortunately there are very few nurseries with some carnivorous plants and most of them are bought and for some reason they don’t seem to bring new ones. All the sarracenias I could find from all the nurseries were the following: Valentine (S.flava, S.purpurea, S.purpurea heterophylla, S.eva, S.farhamnei). Flowerstore (S.purpurea, S.venosa, S.barba). Greenleaf garden center (S.scarlett belle) but they don’t have it anymore. Airplants (S.oreophylla) but the picture is from a S.purpurea. There is another nursery that I don’t remember the name which has just “Sarracenia” and shows a S.scarlett belle. Now for seeds only Valentine and Flowerstore have some. Valentine has S.leuchophylla, S.oreophylla, S.purpurea and flava mix. Flowerstore has only S.purpurea seeds. I don’t trust valentine especially for seeds because it sells seeds from VFT cultivars and names them as the cultivars. The seeds are probably not from carnivorous plants.

Re: Should I wait till spring?

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 12:39 am
by Barlapipas 6
The other option I have is to wait for flower festivals to come in April and try to find some sarracenias. I only have gone to a specific place and most times they sell typical flytraps but I haven’t seen any other type of carnivorous plant there so I will go to other places too this time.

Re: Should I wait till spring?

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 8:56 am
by steve booth
There are a lot of reputable growers in the EU, can't you order from them?
Cheers
Steve

Re: Should I wait till spring?

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 12:35 pm
by Sundews69
Yeah, idk how much shipping is for you, but try these guys: https://wistuba.com/

Re: Should I wait till spring?

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 3:14 pm
by Intheswamp
I don't know what your time horizons are, @Barlapipas 6 , but in another month you can request some sarracenia seeds from the Seed Bank. You would be looking at probably a three to four year growing period before first bloom.

Check this old, 2011 thread out on CPUK for some European carnivorous plant sources...there should be at least a few of these sellers still in business... https://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index.p ... providers/

Re: Should I wait till spring?

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 3:16 pm
by Intheswamp
And here is a list of sellers (from about the same time period, 2010) that's here on the forum. Scroll down to the EU and UK sections:
the-list-of-online-carnivorous-plant-su ... t8732.html

Re: Should I wait till spring?

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:53 pm
by Barlapipas 6
Aww thanks to all of you for your help! :mrgreen: