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By Barlapipas 6
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When I was cleaning some dead leaves of my S.maroon I accidentally pulled 2 live ones. So I putted them in a cup with water and see if they produce new plants. I did this a week ago and they seem good. The only change is the rhizome part turned greener. Also they don’t get direct sunlight.
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By Intheswamp
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If the reddish-brown area is dead I think I would trim it off...maybe trim 2/3 of the entire leaf pulling off. No need to have the dead material in the water with the living tissue. That's what I would do, right or wrong...your choice. ;)
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Oops...I missed that it was a sarracenia. That's good info to know, Panman...I can visualize myself in the future trying this...thanks for saving me from pulling my hair out one day. :lol:
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Panman wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:24 pm Sarrs don't propagate from leaf pullings. People have tried but never succeeded.
Mmm so the only way to propagate Sarracenias is from divisions and rhizome cuttings?
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By MikeB
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Panman wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:24 pm Sarrs don't propagate from leaf pullings. People have tried but never succeeded.
It's difficult but not impossible, works best with prostrate species like psittacina, purpurea, and rosea.

Leaf Pullings: A "New" Way to Propagate Sarracenia Vegetatively
by Barry Rice

Carnivorous Plant Newsletter
Volume 33 Number 4
December 2004

https://cpn.carnivorousplants.org/artic ... 23_126.pdf
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By steve booth
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Leaves won't produce new plants unless you are well into tissue culture, but if you accidentally pull a leaf that still has its clasp attached (white horseshoe-shaped piece that attaches to the rhizome) and the plant is young or semi-mature, these can grow if placed in wet Sphagnum or your normal mix and kept wet. It's a bit hit-and-miss, and doesn't work on mature plants, but does work.
When I tidy the plants in spring in the larger bogs I often pull leaves that are still well attached and plant these with some success.
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MikeB wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:34 am
Panman wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:24 pm Sarrs don't propagate from leaf pullings. People have tried but never succeeded.
It's difficult but not impossible, works best with prostrate species like psittacina, purpurea, and rosea.

Leaf Pullings: A "New" Way to Propagate Sarracenia Vegetatively
by Barry Rice

Carnivorous Plant Newsletter
Volume 33 Number 4
December 2004

https://cpn.carnivorousplants.org/artic ... 23_126.pdf
That is one cool article...even for my newbie self!!! :D

Have any of you used rooting hormones when propagating with leaf pullings? The author mentioned using dead LFSM, I wonder if live sphagnum would work. I also wonder about temperature control in regards to keeping the pullings in a plastic bag...seems they would need to be under good lighting, too, but in a closed bag would they warm up too much? I might have to try that one day...when I get some sizable pitcher plants! ;) Thanks for sharing, Mike!
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Intheswamp wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:07 pm The author mentioned using dead LFSM, I wonder if live sphagnum would work.
I imagine that live sphagnum moss would work even better. Sphagnum gives off chemicals that alter the environment to its liking, and it just so happens that carnivorous plants like it, too. My Sarracenia always grew a bit better in pots that had live sphagnum on them.
Intheswamp wrote: I also wonder about temperature control in regards to keeping the pullings in a plastic bag...seems they would need to be under good lighting, too, but in a closed bag would they warm up too much?
I wouldn't give the leaf pulls direct sun, since they have no roots to draw up water. Bright, indirect light or grow light would be best.
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Live sphagnum in a bag and indirect light. Sounds like a good recipe. I was wondering if grow lights could create too much heat within the bag. As for the sun, years ago I built a solar oven out of cardboard, crumpled newspaper, aluminum foil, and a turkey roasting bag. It's amazing when you take the lid off the pot and see steam roll out and simmering meat and vegetables!!! So, yeah, no full sunj!!! ;) :lol:
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Update: I had put them in a ziplock bag for 2 weeks I think. I haven’t open it since then. Now the rhizome part of the bigger one turned even more green, it has grown something like a green calus and most importantly it started to grow roots! So the experiment goes very well for the moment.
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By steve booth
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Good. When you come to pot on use either a very wet peat/perlite substrate, or even better, a live Sphagnum. My best results have come from that type of growing with Sphagnum proving to be superior.
Good luck.
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It really seems like most everything does very well in live sphagnum moss. Is there anything that doesn't do well in it??? :?:
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I only have dead sphagnum which I think it will work. I would love to have live sphagnum but I can’t find some. Even then I don’t think I can keep it alive especially in the summer (it’s so hot that water evaporates VERY fast). From my past experiments I understood that I can propagate leaf pulling a inside a closed ziplock bag with just water. I had done the exact same thing with 2 half dead VFT leaves and the 2 of them produces roots and tiny leaves (but then I had left them in direct sunlight and they died).
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