New to live sphagnum

New to live sphagnum#367852

By Panman -  Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:00 pm
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- Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:00 pm #367852

Hi all. I'm new to using live sphagnum for anything but a top dressing. I've got a boatload of it and have top dressed all three of my outdoor bogs and still have this left.

I'm going to start potting up some neps and VFT in live moss. Do I fill the pot with it, or do I put dried lfsm in the bottom since the live in the bottom will die anyway. How do you use live moss?

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Re: New to live sphagnum#367867

By sanguinearocks101 -  Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:15 pm
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- Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:15 pm #367867

I would just use it for the top. It would probably die on the bottom like you said.

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Re: New to live sphagnum#367931

By jose -  Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:48 am
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- Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:48 am #367931

I believe neps don’t like live Sphagnum as an actual media since it stays too wet

Re: New to live sphagnum#367937

By hungry carnivores - Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:44 am

- Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:44 am #367937

Nooooo

. Don't use it all. Make a couple tubs using large clear plastic containers. Put the sphagnum in it, on some deadlfs. If you maxsea it, you will have a never ending supply of sphagnum. And you can trade it.

Re: New to live sphagnum#367939

By Do_Gon -  Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:01 am
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- Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:01 am #367939

jose wrote:I believe neps don’t like live Sphagnum as an actual media since it stays too wet

My neps love it.

Re: New to live sphagnum#367943

By Invasion_UwU_OwO_69_ -  Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:24 am
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- Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:24 am #367943

I have a few pots of VFT in live sphagnum. I'd only recommend doing larger mature rhizomes as wet spells or humid cloudy days during summer established moss will just explode. Granted it took a few months to figure itself out, but the pots I have it in are welling with moss now.

If desired, I'll dump some pics of the small pots.

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Re: New to live sphagnum#367945

By sanguinearocks101 -  Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:31 am
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- Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:31 am #367945

jose wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:48 am I believe neps don’t like live Sphagnum as an actual media since it stays too wet

I think they like it, but hamatas absolutely love it.

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Re: New to live sphagnum#367954

By jose -  Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:15 pm
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- Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:15 pm #367954

sanguinearocks101 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:31 am
jose wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:48 am I believe neps don’t like live Sphagnum as an actual media since it stays too wet

I think they like it, but hamatas absolutely love it.

Top dressing or actual media? Watering frequencies usually affect what’s possible (after all I’ve seen people grow neps successfully in Peat). As a rule though, live sphag stays too wet for nep media

Re: New to live sphagnum#367959

By Do_Gon -  Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:02 pm
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- Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:02 pm #367959

jose wrote:
sanguinearocks101 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:31 am
jose wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:48 am I believe neps don’t like live Sphagnum as an actual media since it stays too wet

I think they like it, but hamatas absolutely love it.
Top dressing or actual media? Watering frequencies usually affect what’s possible (after all I’ve seen people grow neps successfully in Peat). As a rule though, live sphag stays too wet for nep media

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