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Nepenthes veitchii hybrid pitchers opening too soon?

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:45 pm
by lemon
Are there veitchii growers here? Have you seen something like that before?

This is my Nepenthes robcantleyi x veitchii BE-3933 which I acquired 3-4 months ago. I keep it in a terrarium with 70-90 percent humidity and temps ranging from 60°F to 80°F. It gets 12 hours of light a day. So far it produced 2 new pitchers and I'm a little worried by their look. It's like they opened too soon and then stopped at some point. The neck is stooped and the lower peristome is not even visible. What do you make of it? What I know for sure is that no one was touching the plant, there are no kids or animals in the house.

Here's an example of how they should look after opening.

Re: Nepenthes veitchii hybrid pitchers opening too soon?

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:55 pm
by Camden
The second pitcher looks like some kind of bug has gotten to it. It didn’t open like that did it? I’ll leaf the deformity issue to more experienced growers because I’m not all that experienced with pests.

Re: Nepenthes veitchii hybrid pitchers opening too soon?

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:03 am
by lemon
Camden M wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:55 pmIt didn’t open like that did it?
Actually it did open like that. That tear was not made by a pest.

Re: Nepenthes veitchii hybrid pitchers opening too soon?

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:52 am
by Bluefire
Strange. My Veitchii only make pitchers like that when they're upset with me... Like when I dumped them on the windowsill with a much too short acclimation time and they were still trying to make pitchers.

But your humidity is too high for that to be the issue...

Maybe it's too high?

Re: Nepenthes veitchii hybrid pitchers opening too soon?

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:16 am
by Camden
Was it always in this terrarium?

Re: Nepenthes veitchii hybrid pitchers opening too soon?

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:50 am
by yardleyq1987
I’ve owned this same cross for 3 years and none of my pitchers have done that.


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Re: Nepenthes veitchii hybrid pitchers opening too soon?

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:51 am
by yardleyq1987
To elaborate further, my average humidity would have to be around 50 percent in those 3 years- present.


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Re: Nepenthes veitchii hybrid pitchers opening too soon?

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:03 pm
by lemon
Camden M wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:16 am Was it always in this terrarium?
Yeah, I mean since I got it. Previous owner said he kept it on a windowsill, but I prefer to keep my neps in a more humid environment--they make bigger and nicer pitchers this way.

I'm gonna keep a closer look at the 3rd pitcher that is now forming and report regularly (you can see it near the 2nd pitcher). Right now I can already make out the wings and the lid. We'll see how it goes this time.

Re: Nepenthes veitchii hybrid pitchers opening too soon?

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:06 pm
by lemon
yardleyq1987 wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:50 am I’ve owned this same cross for 3 years and none of my pitchers have done that.
Do you still have it? Can you post some pics here?

Re: Nepenthes veitchii hybrid pitchers opening too soon?

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:52 pm
by lemon
Last pics of the new pitcher. Looking good so far.

Re: Nepenthes veitchii hybrid pitchers opening too soon?

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:18 am
by lemon
And another two pics. It's growing fast and is already taller than the last pitcher. The neck looks pretty straight, not stooped, and it's still not open so fingers crossed this one will turn out normal.

Re: Nepenthes veitchii hybrid pitchers opening too soon?

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 1:11 pm
by Camden
Looking good so far :)

Re: Nepenthes veitchii hybrid pitchers opening too soon?

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 5:53 pm
by lemon
Yep.

Re: Nepenthes veitchii hybrid pitchers opening too soon?

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:39 am
by lemon
The wings are starting to unfurl and there's a crease through the middle of the lid, same as on those reddit pictures I linked in the OP. The pitcher will probably open by the end of the week.

Re: Nepenthes veitchii hybrid pitchers opening too soon?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:47 pm
by lemon
Not much has changed since Wednesday.