Neem oil OR submerging?

Neem oil OR submerging?#435259

By Barlapipas 6 -  Fri May 12, 2023 3:53 pm
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- Fri May 12, 2023 3:53 pm #435259

My VFTs have some yellow thrips. I didn’t do anything other than kill some by hand and now I saw a lot of baby thrips like at least 4 ( which I killed all ). I don’t see any noticeable damage yet but I know for sure that they established themselves on the plants. What is best? Neem oil, or submerging in distilled water?

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Re: Neem oil OR submerging?#435262

By Panman -  Fri May 12, 2023 4:19 pm
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- Fri May 12, 2023 4:19 pm #435262

Captain Jack's Dead Bug Brew has worked really well for me treating thrips. All of the plants tolerate it very well.

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Re: Neem oil OR submerging?#435263

By Barlapipas 6 -  Fri May 12, 2023 4:38 pm
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- Fri May 12, 2023 4:38 pm #435263

My country doesn’t have this insecticide unfortunately.

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Re: Neem oil OR submerging?#435264

By Panman -  Fri May 12, 2023 4:53 pm
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- Fri May 12, 2023 4:53 pm #435264

Look for something with Spinosad as the main ingredient.

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Re: Neem oil OR submerging?#435281

By nimbulan -  Fri May 12, 2023 6:42 pm
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- Fri May 12, 2023 6:42 pm #435281

I haven't found neem oil particularly effective on thrips, and submerging hasn't worked for me for ANY pests. Spinosad however works amazingly well if you can find it.

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Re: Neem oil OR submerging?#435287

By Barlapipas 6 -  Fri May 12, 2023 7:29 pm
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- Fri May 12, 2023 7:29 pm #435287

I found something with spinosad! But does it need to have certain percentages or do other chemicals harm? One I found said that it has spinosad but didn’t say anything else.

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Re: Neem oil OR submerging?#435290

By Panman -  Fri May 12, 2023 7:43 pm
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- Fri May 12, 2023 7:43 pm #435290

What I use is .5% so that would likely be too strong. I can't comment on the other ingredients, because I can't read Greek. Sorry.

It is a naturally occuring product, so you may look for it at an organic gardening store.

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Re: Neem oil OR submerging?#435300

By Barlapipas 6 -  Fri May 12, 2023 8:11 pm
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- Fri May 12, 2023 8:11 pm #435300

That’s the problem. It doesn’t say the other chemicals. The greek writing just says how it kills different kinds of insects. Also I didn’t show the part where it says how to use it on different plants but they were mostly consumable plants.

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Re: Neem oil OR submerging?#435305

By nimbulan -  Fri May 12, 2023 8:47 pm
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- Fri May 12, 2023 8:47 pm #435305

Generally non-active ingredients in these products won't be a problem. From the concentration and the price though, that sounds like one intended for professional use (and it's obviously highly concentrated so it needs to be diluted.) Also my ready to use spray bottle contains 0.001% spinosad so I can't even imagine how much spray you could make with that product.

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Re: Neem oil OR submerging?#435380

By Barlapipas 6 -  Sun May 14, 2023 10:37 am
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- Sun May 14, 2023 10:37 am #435380

I found 2 other insecticides with spinosad. They have different concentrations. This one has added things to lure insects. Those things are: vitamins, sugars, flour, water, soda, oil. It doesn’t specify the ingredients.

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Re: Neem oil OR submerging?#435381

By Barlapipas 6 -  Sun May 14, 2023 10:39 am
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- Sun May 14, 2023 10:39 am #435381

The other one is more concentrated. It doesn’t say what the other ingredients are but it’s cheaper.

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Re: Neem oil OR submerging?#435405

By Barlapipas 6 -  Mon May 15, 2023 10:17 am
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- Mon May 15, 2023 10:17 am #435405

Which one do you think is best?

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Re: Neem oil OR submerging?#435420

By nimbulan -  Mon May 15, 2023 3:32 pm
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- Mon May 15, 2023 3:32 pm #435420

I'm not really sure about the whole "bait" system with the first one. The second one will certainly need to be diluted before use.

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Re: Neem oil OR submerging?#435422

By Barlapipas 6 -  Mon May 15, 2023 3:44 pm
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- Mon May 15, 2023 3:44 pm #435422

Good! Then I will use the second one. I will buy it after I finish the finals which is in about a month, so I will keep updating.

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Re: Neem oil OR submerging?#435424

By nimbulan -  Mon May 15, 2023 4:16 pm
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- Mon May 15, 2023 4:16 pm #435424

To be clear, follow the directions on the label when it comes to diluting to make sure you end up with the correct concentration.

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