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Re: D. filiformis tracyi x "Florida Giant" possible hybrid leaf cutting propagation?

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:00 pm
by Intheswamp
Looks like probably another month or so in looking back at your dreamsicle propagation thread. I think I need to start lowering the water level, though. Iā€™m thinking there may be a few more plantlets to pop out.

I think I need to up pot the mother plant. It seems the leaves are getting 6ā€+ and they start laying over. I had one to fold/crimp the other day so I snipped it into several pieces and have them in another container with wet Live sphagnum moss.

Re: D. filiformis tracyi x "Florida Giant" possible hybrid leaf cutting propagation?

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 2:41 am
by MikeB
I waited until mine were about 1.5 inches tall. They handled the move without a fuss, and the plants are 4-6 inches tall now.

Re: D. filiformis tracyi x "Florida Giant" possible hybrid leaf cutting propagation?

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:52 am
by Intheswamp
Looks like three or four more weeks in the "nursery" for these babies, depending on there growth. What would be the best media to move them to?

Re: D. filiformis tracyi x "Florida Giant" possible hybrid leaf cutting propagation?

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:36 pm
by Intheswamp
MikeB wrote: ā†‘Sat Sep 24, 2022 2:41 am I waited until mine were about 1.5 inches tall. They handled the move without a fuss, and the plants are 4-6 inches tall now.
Thanks, Mike! What media did you move them into?

Re: D. filiformis tracyi x "Florida Giant" possible hybrid leaf cutting propagation?

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 2:38 pm
by MikeB
I put them in my standard carnivorous plant soil: 3 parts peat moss, 1 part perlite, 1 part coarse sand.

Re: D. filiformis tracyi x "Florida Giant" possible hybrid leaf cutting propagation?

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:40 pm
by Intheswamp
I've yet to come up with coarse sand. Got the play sand that I've pretty much determined is pure silica sand, but it is a finer grain...it's not a powder but definitely not a coarse grain. And, of course, I've got some perlite. I just had some issues with perlite nastying up my plants early on when I didn't have them mulched with LFSM...it was a mess...perlite in the traps mouths....perlite sticking to the small sundews. :| :( I'm thinking of starting to use a mix with perlite to fill the lower 1/2 to 2/3 of the pots and finish out with peat and the sand for the top layer and topping this off with a layer of LFSM.

Re: D. filiformis tracyi x "Florida Giant" possible hybrid leaf cutting propagation?

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:51 pm
by Carnies
How big are your sand grains? Mine aren't super coarse either, but it works fine. For transferring I would use just Peat and Sand if you're having trouble with perlite.

Re: D. filiformis tracyi x "Florida Giant" possible hybrid leaf cutting propagation?

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 4:06 pm
by Intheswamp
I'm guessing 0.5mm, roughly a 30-mesh(?). I checked the sand with vinegar and did not get any reaction and the physical appearance looks ok...clear, quartz appearance.

Re: D. filiformis tracyi x "Florida Giant" possible hybrid leaf cutting propagation?

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:40 pm
by Intheswamp
UPDATE:

This is no competition to ya'll's leaf sprouting successes, but I'm *really* happy with what I've got! :D

Started on August 28th, so almost two months old. The tallest sprout is probably +/- 3/4" tall. I had to move them inside and under lights which makes me a tad nervous, but they seem to be doing ok...they've been inside about a week now. I am *definitely* sold on starting sundews from leaf-cuttings!!! Larger sprouts/seedlings *much* faster than from seeds. There's still a learning curve I'm navigating and I've gotten in a ditch once, so far. Hopefully I can bring most of these sprouts through the winter and see them get big this spring and summer. From Florida to S. Carolina, to California and back to Alabama (I think that's the route<g>)...the well traveled sundew!!! :lol:

Re: D. filiformis tracyi x "Florida Giant" possible hybrid leaf cutting propagation?

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:05 am
by Intheswamp
Some shots from tonight. The longest leaf is probably an inch long. When should I consider transplanting to pots? They're currently growing in saturated live(ish) sphagnum moss.

Re: D. filiformis tracyi x "Florida Giant" possible hybrid leaf cutting propagation?

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:29 pm
by Intheswamp
Hmmm, ok. This is about the third time I've tried to post this and my posts keep...disappearing. :?:

Anyhoo... I'm about ready to transplant my Florida Giant leaf cutting sprouts from their nursery box to their camp cabins. :mrgreen: The leaves are a little over an inch long now and the plants have multiple leaves. I've got some 5-3/4" square pots and I'm thinking of putting four sprouts to a pot. I've also got some 2-3/4" pots (shorter also) that I'm thinking of putting a few single plants in.

The plants germinated in and have been growing in (mostly) live 100% sphagnum moss. I would like to go to a 50:50 peat/perlite grow mix and top dress with sand or sphagnum moss (live or dried). I have supplies for most any type of growing medium but this seems like it would be the easiest to transplant from at a later date. My question is whether moving from the live sphagnum moss to the peat-based medium will cause a problem. The sprouts have grown well. I did have to leaves that developed a tiny spit of white mold or mildew which I pinched out...the plants survived and did well afterwards. What I don't want to do at this point is hurt the sprouts. Any recommendations on going the peat/perlite route? Should I be patient and let them grow another inch? I really would like to get them out of the super humid environment that they're in and start hardening them off a bit...which I guess I can do where they're currently growing. :?: :?: :?:

Re: D. filiformis tracyi x "Florida Giant" possible hybrid leaf cutting propagation?

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:17 pm
by Panman
Those look awful red to be tracyii or Florida Giant. Maybe Florida red.

Re: D. filiformis tracyi x "Florida Giant" possible hybrid leaf cutting propagation?

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:02 pm
by Intheswamp
Hmmm, they're dang sure red, aren't they? I do have a forensic trail I could follow, but I'd rather not name names.... @elaineo <<< @optique . :mrgreen:

Here's the parent plant:
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Re: D. filiformis tracyi x "Florida Giant" possible hybrid leaf cutting propagation?

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:46 am
by Panman
Okay, that's weird! I'll be interested to see what they look like when they grow up.

Re: D. filiformis tracyi x "Florida Giant" possible hybrid leaf cutting propagation?

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:03 am
by Intheswamp
You got me to thinking so I went back and looked at some older photos. The transition from green to red seemed to happen quickly...from Oct 16th to Oct 20 it seemed pretty dramatic. Here is somewhat of an "age progression"...click on the square container picture and then on the right-arrow to watch them redden up.