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Are these planters too shallow?

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:12 pm
by Intheswamp
I've got several of these old plastic planters I could use for some of my CPs, mostly sundews. They're only 4-1/2" deep, though. Would they work for a year or two to grow fiilformis-type sundews and capes in?

Re: Are these planters too shallow?

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:15 pm
by Panman
That should be deep enough for the sundews. I have both capes and filiformis growing in 4 inch pots. I've got one that has been in there for 3 years and doesn't seem to mind.

Re: Are these planters too shallow?

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:18 pm
by Intheswamp
That sounds great, Panman. I'll go forward with my plans...first thing is to WASH those planters (two or three times)!!! ;) Second thing is to decide on a tray for them. I think I've got a couple of Sterilite containers that probably three of these long planters will sit in. Do sundews handle slightly more shallow containers than flytraps?

Thanks for the feedback! (as usual!!!! :) )

Re: Are these planters too shallow?

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:56 pm
by Intheswamp
I checked the Sterilite containers and two of the long planters will fit in them with room for some small 3” pots possibly fitting in with them. I see a plan coming together! :D

Re: Are these planters too shallow?

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:21 pm
by evenwind
I think the deepest planter I have for my (rosetted) sundews is under 4". They seem content enough - or at least they're not leaving bad Yelp reviews. I start most of my seeds in 2x2x2 pots and a lot of the subsequent sub-adults don't get moved until they are, well, sub-adults. It's not ideal but then, in nature, they grow where they're going to be thumped on by rabbits and peed on by muskrats.

Re: Are these planters too shallow?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 2:48 am
by Intheswamp
Between the two of you you have convinced me I've been overthinking things for my sundews! That opens up lots of containers for planting. :mrgreen: The rabbits we got around here but the muskrats might be a problem...'reckon possum pee will work ok? I don't want bad Yelp reviews...they're killers!!! :lol:

Am I correct, though, in thinking that flytraps will do better in 6" or deeper pots? What about sarrs...??

Re: Are these planters too shallow?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:14 am
by optique
I pick up planters of that same make and pattern and clean and paint them white. They look great and sell very well.

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Re: Are these planters too shallow?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:25 am
by Intheswamp
@optique, I had thought about painting them white. I've painted other containers that I've used for vegetables with some of the "for plastic" paints...it seems to work pretty well. I wonder how it does in constant contact with soggy/wet media, though? Do the trays that come attached to the planters work well in holding enough water to do the tray method for watering or do you need to top water regularly? The only holes in the planters I have are the ones the prongs on the trays stick into to hold the planter/tray assembly together. The four holes don't give a lot of drainage. Do you add any holes in the bottom?

Re: Are these planters too shallow?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:37 am
by optique
I have not had much luck with paint under water, I paint my water tubs to UV proof the cheap plastic but under the water line flakes off over time.

I use the painted pots for normal house plants like in the photo.

Re: Are these planters too shallow?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:15 am
by steve booth
They'd do for Darlingtonia too if you've got any spare. Fill with sphagnum, and water, and away they go, their root systems and stolons seem to like shallow containers. I grow hundreds in 4" trays, the pitcher's aren't as tall as plants in deep pots of Sphagnum, but they do grow and reproduce faster.
Cheers
Steve

Re: Are these planters too shallow?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 1:05 pm
by Intheswamp
optique wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:37 am I have not had much luck with paint under water, I paint my water tubs to UV proof the cheap plastic but under the water line flakes off over time.

I use the painted pots for normal house plants like in the photo.
Ok, I took it as you were planting CPs in the pots....the image wouldn't show up for me when I replied, but it does now...kinda. Paint under water has always been a bit of a issue for me, too. I recall painting an old plywood jon boat 50+ years ago. It was just some paint we found in my parents garage...don't know if it was exterior, interior, enamel, or fingerpaint....it was light blue, though. :lol: Whatever the case, that paint held tight for *years* on that old boat. Probably 50% lead or something. 8-)

Anyhow, I guess I'll just scrub the planters good and let'em have the "distressed" look. :mrgreen:

Re: Are these planters too shallow?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 1:13 pm
by Intheswamp
steve booth wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:15 am They'd do for Darlingtonia too if you've got any spare. Fill with sphagnum, and water, and away they go, their root systems and stolons seem to like shallow containers. I grow hundreds in 4" trays, the pitcher's aren't as tall as plants in deep pots of Sphagnum, but they do grow and reproduce faster.
Cheers
Steve
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Cobra plants are cool so one day I hope to grow some. I think that I've been stressing too much over trying to get containers at least 6" deep for everything, but it looks like I've been wrong and "everything" doesn't require that deep of a pot. That's good news. ;)